VICTORIA DERBYSHIRE But Mr Clarke, surely resign means resign?
KEN CLARKE With all due respect, no it doesn’t… Some resignations are more serious than others. If I knew you and we’d had dinner together, say, and then you asked me to resign, that obviously wouldn’t be as bad as a total stranger dragging me off the street and telling me to resign.
VICTORIA Mr Clarke, have you ever met anyone who’s resigned?
KEN Yes, there was Geoffrey Howe, Mrs Thatcher…
VICTORIA That was a long time ago…
KEN Well yes, but resigning hasn’t changed all that much over the years.
VICTORIA So you’re not going to resign?
KEN No, I’m not.
VICTORIA You’re definitely not?
KEN No. (beat) Look: no means no, Victoria.